Fixed font Subject: recovery emails from Inbox
Author: Gabriela Maties Date: 14 Sep 2011
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Hello,

I am very worried, because after I compacted all folders I note that email from Inbox a big number of them from may 2011 until today was disappeared.

Before that I was done all your instruction for Sent Items.dbx
, because Sent Items has become corrupt, instruction from Bruce Hagen 2008.

I didn't cancel or do nothing regarding Inbox items.
There is a solutions for my problem? I used Outlook Express 6

Thank you for any help. Gabi

> On Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:46 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

> In the past few weeks I have had problems of very slow downloads of
> my messages in Inbox. Today they have stopped completely. Have done the
> anti-virus (free Avast) and anti-spyware (free Ad-aware and others)
> checks but to still no avail.
>
> I do get the notification "An unknown error has occurred"
> occassionally. Presently, today's messages at Inbox remain not downloaded.
> How can I
> resolve the problem?
>
> p.s - Tried to send msg thru OE newsgroup but unable to send due to
> the problem. Now sending thru Google Groups.
> TIA
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce
>
> Thanks for your prompt response. I have managed to download my messages in
> OE by leaving the OE open for about 3 hours and the messages got downloaded
> but oh so slowly. That is obviously not a solution.
>
> To follow your advise to first save the messages in the 3 folders to 3 newly
> created folders, I'd like some more advise. To save the messages one by one
> would take quite long indeed, considering my Inbox has close to 2K messages.
> Could I save all of them at one go somehow? And then do the same with the
> other two folders.
>
> I am replying from OE so I can do it the usual way which is most comfortable
> for me, and also to save those that I value for future reference, rather
> than having to go to two different places to work it out.
>
> I your reply I would appreciate if you could include your reply of yesterday
> so that I can have it all in OE again, to make life easier.
> Thanks


>> On Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:21 AM Bruce Hagen wrote:

>> Is this a continuation of this problem?
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/browse_thread/thread/449b140b7415cccb?hl=en&q=author:casiopie963%40hotmail.com
>>
>> Are you speaking of Outlook Express folders, or Hotmail folders?
>>
>> If Hotmail, someone else will have to help you. If Outlook Express folders,
>> do the following:
>>
>> Move any messages you want to save out of Deleted Items, Sent Items and the
>> Inbox to folders that you create and then close OE and delete the dbx files
>> for those three folders.
>>
>> Note that you do not have to move messages one at a time. Highlight one
>> message and then Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Now you can Right Click and
>> Move To Folder, (or just drag them), and they will all go at once.
>>
>> If you want to move a portion of the messages to one new folder, and then
>> another portion to another folder, etc., click on the first message to
>> highlight. Scroll down to the last of the section of messages you want to
>> move and hold down the Shift key and click the left mouse button. Now that
>> /section/ is highlighted. Move it.
>>
>> Now, continue with the cleanup.
>>
>> Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
>> your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
>> Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.
>>
>> In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
>> marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
>> Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
>> Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
>>
>> With OE closed, find the Deleted Items.dbx, Sent Items.dbx and Inbox .dbx
>> files and delete them. New files will be created automatically when you open
>> OE.
>>
>> Compact all folders as described below.
>>
>> To help prevent this in the future:
>>
>> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
>> corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
>> mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
>> folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
>>
>> After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
>> working *offline* and do it often.
>>
>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
>> the compacting is completed.
>>
>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
>> of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
>> time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
>> continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
>>
>> In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
>> leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2 or SP3}.
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eFqisWVnJHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>> On Friday, March 06, 2009 2:35 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>> Yes it is a continuation of the problem. I had stated that I am transferring
>>> to this newsgroup for convenience.
>>>
>>> I am speaking of OE folders, but I don't know if there is a problem. In the
>>> left pane I have the Hotmail below the OE folders and below it are the
>>> folders Inbox/Sent/items/Deleted items/. All the msgs I receive or send or
>>> delete are in these folders automatically. I also have the same folders
>>> under "Local Folders at the top of the pane but there is hardly anything in
>>> there. Is this OK or do I need to make changes?
>>>
>>> I had moved all my Inbox and Sent items to the new created folders. This
>>> took quite some time especially for the 2K items in Inbox especially since
>>> it periodically stopped because "An unknown error has occurred" and I had to
>>> stop, restart and start over again. Why do I get this error?
>>>
>>> After deleting the 3 folders and opening IE again, my Inbox and Sent items
>>> folders are empty. Perhaps its because I had moved all their contents to the
>>> new created folders. What shall I do now? Shall I move them back to the OE
>>> folders?
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:eo2VsqVnJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>> On Friday, March 06, 2009 3:36 PM Michael Santovec wrote:

>>>> With HTTP (Hotmail) and IMAP mail accounts each account has a set of
>>>> folders that mirror the mail server. What you do on the server gets
>>>> propagated to the OE folders and what you do in OE gets propagated to
>>>> the server when you connect to the server.
>>>>
>>>> So if you move messages or delete them, those changes will get
>>>> propagated.
>>>>
>>>> The LOCAL FOLDERS in OE are used for POP3 accounts and any user created
>>>> folders that you desire.
>>>>
>>>> If you Move a message from a Hotmail folder in OE to a local folder,
>>>> then when you connect to Hotmail, OE will delete the message from the
>>>> Hotmail folder on the server. And if you then access Hotmail via the
>>>> web interface, you won't see that message there anymore.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#Kqpj4inJHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...


>>>>> On Friday, March 06, 2009 3:42 PM Bruce Hagen wrote:

>>>>> In the left pane:
>>>>>
>>>>> Outlook Express
>>>>> Local Folders
>>>>> Inbox
>>>>> Outbox
>>>>> Sent Items
>>>>> Delete Items
>>>>> Drafts
>>>>>
>>>>> /These/ are your OE folders. Your Hotmail folders will be below them. From
>>>>> what you describe, you are speaking of the Hotmail folders and not the OE
>>>>> folders. Can you confirm this please.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23Kqpj4inJHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...


>>>>>> On Saturday, March 07, 2009 1:34 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>> Yes. You are right. Continuing below the 5 OE folders are my 10 or so
>>>>>> created folders. And then below that is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hotmail
>>>>>> Inbox
>>>>>> Sent Items
>>>>>> Deleted Items
>>>>>> Bulk Mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All my messages come into the Hotmail Inbox and I don't know why is that.
>>>>>> All my Sent Items are also under Hotmail. Deleted items, some are under
>>>>>> Local Folders and some under the Hotmail and I also don't know why is that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way I am still unable to download messages into my Inbox (under
>>>>>> Hotmail). It was emptied as I said yesterday, and about 30 messages came in
>>>>>> today, and they remain undownloaded. If you think I've got it sep up wrong
>>>>>> pls tell me how to correct it.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Oz1uDwpnJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:03 AM Bruce Hagen wrote:

>>>>>>> Now that you have figured out that it is the Hotmail folders and not the OE
>>>>>>> folders you are having a problem with, I remind you of the first two
>>>>>>> sentences on my original reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <QP>
>>>>>>> Are you speaking of Outlook Express folders, or Hotmail folders? If Hotmail,
>>>>>>> someone else will have to help you.
>>>>>>> </QP>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but I Know very little about Hotmail.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OACa%23oxnJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:05 AM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>> Your Hotmail account is running as a WebDAV/HTML account in OE. If you have
>>>>>>>> other accounts running in OE, they're probably POP3 accounts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you see in your Hotmail-specific folders "mirror" what's on the server
>>>>>>>> and what you see at www.hotmail.com. If you delete a message from, e.g.,
>>>>>>>> your Hotmail-specific Inbox folder, it will be deleted from the server and
>>>>>>>> the inbox on the webmail page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Incoming mail from your POP3 accounts come into the default Inbox local
>>>>>>>> folder (at the top of the Folders pane). Unlike the Hotmail account,
>>>>>>>> messages in any other folders on an account's corresponding webmail page do
>>>>>>>> not download into OE. Furthermore, if you've not enabled "Leave messages on
>>>>>>>> the server" option for the POP3 account, incoming messages are deleted from
>>>>>>>> the inbox on the webmail page after they download into OE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Outgoing emails from all accounts and outgoing news posts all use the
>>>>>>>> default Outbox local folder. Copies of sent Hotmail messages are then found
>>>>>>>> in the Hotmail-specific Sent Items folder while all other copies go to the
>>>>>>>> default Sent Items local folder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Need more confusion? You can now access your Hotmail account via POP3 for
>>>>>>>> free. I'll tell you more later, if you're interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS: See "disable email scanning" below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> General OE Caveats:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>>>>>>>> folders created for this purpose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
>>>>>>>> offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
>>>>>>>> close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
>>>>>>>> is taking place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>>>>>>>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote:


>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 7:26 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. While I am not that good at computers to fully
>>>>>>>>> comprehend what you advise, I would appreciate your advise on what I should
>>>>>>>>> do to get out of my present predicament.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks


>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 7:31 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> It was due to my insuffient knowledge about these things. I had assumed that
>>>>>>>>>> since I am opening OE, everything in it has to be OE.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I still need your advise. Why the Hotmail is in OE I don't know. I think I
>>>>>>>>>> should arrange to get my messages coming in into the Inbox of OE and not
>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail in OE. Would that be correct? How should I do it without messing
>>>>>>>>>> anything up?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eooehXznJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 7:39 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> My email ID is Hotmail. I do not have any other. Since I have been using OE
>>>>>>>>>>> for the past number of years, I have never gone to the web based Hotmail to
>>>>>>>>>>> do my messages since, they all appear in OE, and that is more convenient.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously my messages should come into the Inbox at OE, but that has never
>>>>>>>>>>> been the case. So what should I do about that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also my messages are not been downloaded these days. I have to leave the
>>>>>>>>>>> computer on for about 4 hours in OE for them to be oh so slowly downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>> How can I resolve that?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23yngk8znJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 2:48 PM Michael Santovec wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> I was saying that OE did what you told it to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you moved the messages from the Hotmail folders in OE to the Local
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folders in OE that deleted on the messages on the Hotmail which is why
>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't see the messages any more when using IE to logon onto the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail web site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moving lots of messages into or out of Hotmail folders is prone to
>>>>>>>>>>>> communications errors which why you kept getting error messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You could move the messages back to the Hotmail folders in OE. That's
>>>>>>>>>>>> your choice. If you want to be able to see the messages using the web
>>>>>>>>>>>> interface or from another PC, then that's what you should do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:#4c4wnKoJHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 2:54 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bruce is AWOL and asked me to step in here, Ben.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Open OE Tools | Accounts | Mail: Select (highlight) the Hotmail account
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then press the REMOVE button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Close OE & reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Open OE, then open Tools | Accounts: click on the ADD ... MAIL buttons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Now configure your Hotmail account in as a POP3 account per these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to add your e-mail account to Microsoft Outlook Express
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/02/18/how-to-add-your-e-mail-account-to-microsoft-outlook-express.aspx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may find the info here helpful, too:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!422.entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMPORTANT!! When you access a Hotmail account via POP3:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. You will not have any of the separate Hotmail-specific folders you had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously (i.e., the Hotmail-specific Inbox, Sent Items, Deleted Items, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bulk Mail folders).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Only new (incoming) messages will download and they'll download into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default Inbox folder (i.e., along with new messages from any other POP3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts you may have running in OE).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Unless you enable the "Leave messages on the server" option, the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages you download into OE will be deleted from the mailserver. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the messages will NOT be available when you use another computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll find this option (and a few others) in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hotmail account] | Properties | Advanced | Delivery (section).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 09, 2009 3:04 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I do not think he is accessing the account via POP3 yet, Michael.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Santovec wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:45 PM Michael Santovec wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think he is either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I interpreted his problem, in OE he moved the messages out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP folders to local folders and then seemed surprised to find that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were no longer on the Hotmail web site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e$MernOoJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:11 AM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's certainly a possibility, yes. I've even seen a right-click/Copy To a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local folder move a Hotmail message to (Hotmail) Deleted Items folder, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after that happens you cannot move it from there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Santovec wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 11:50 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. Fell sick for a couple of days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have gone thru all that you have recommended. Quite a bit to do. I started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking and I have a question. Is there any advantage for me to switch the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail folders to OE folders? Considering that I have not had much trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a number of years, except now. Or is there any disadvantage if I leave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as it is in Hotmail folders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ue5XqnOoJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 1:06 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you've got Hotmail up & running again as it's always been running in OE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., via WebDAV, with separate Hotmail-specific folders), leave things as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are: The First Law of Computing is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're still having problems accessing the account (including in a new OE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identity), switching to POP3 access may be your only choice if you want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to access any new messages (only) in OE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That being said, I suspect WebDAV access may be discontinued in the (very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near) future. If and when that happens, the only way anyone will be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access a Hotmail account in OE will be via POP3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Historical timeline:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The end of WebDAV access for free Hotmail accounts was first announced in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apr-08:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A month later, they decided to delay it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5745.entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Sept-08, we saw a hint that POP3 access soon would be available for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!44348.entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free POP3 access in 2009 was confirmed in Dec-08:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://windowslivehelp.com/community/p/3877/13651.aspx#13651
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free POP3 access for many was announced on 13 Jan-09, then finally for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone on 13 Mar-09:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/13/pop3-availability-in-windows-live-hotmail.aspx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:26 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your advise. Guess I'll leave my msgs in Hotmail Folders for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time being.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which takes me back to my original problem in that my msgs are quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to download. It takes around 3 hours. How can I resolve the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u0WW8mlpJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:00 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DISCLAIMER: Access to free Hotmail accounts in OE has always been provided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a "beta service" for which there has never been any support whatsoever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NB: If you've got more than one (1) Hotmail account running in OE, tell me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. As illogical as it may sound or appear, first I'd like you to make sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that IE is optimized for Hotmail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Optimize IE for Windows Live Hotmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!6203.entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Now confirm that you're not having ANY problems whatsoever accessing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account via the web-page: www.hotmail.com. If you are, STOP HERE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's still taking "around 3 hours" for your Hotmail folders to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synchronize in OE:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Open IE Tools | Internet Options | Privacy | (click on) Sites: In the box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you see, type...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ALLOW cookies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Open OE Tools | Accounts | Mail (tab) | select (highlight) the Hotmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account then press the EXPORT button; Save the exported IAF to your desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for convenience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Create a new identity via OE File | Identities | Add new identity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. With OE open to the new identity, open Tools | Accounts | Mail (tab) |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press the IMPORT button and point the wizard to the IAF file on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop. This will automatically configure the Hotmail account in the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. With OE still open to the new identity, click on Tools | Accounts | Mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option is checked (enabled), then OK your way out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. With OE still open to the new identity, use the keyboard combination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CTRL+M to sync with the Hotmail server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see the same, slow behavior in the new identity or not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Entire thread history in archive:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/browse_frm/thread/cb42ec169ac92edb/1f91dedd66727c36


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:56 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. Am still unwell. Unable to walk despite medication. Pls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bear with me for the time being. A little OK today. My answers as below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23Dq80v0pJHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only one hotmail account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did most of it but for item 9 : "Click the "Restricted sites" icon, click
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sites," select a listed site (if there are any), and then click "Remove."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat this step until all the sites are removed from the list. Click "OK"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are finished. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were tens of thousands of sites there, and I was only allowed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove one at a time. There should be a button to "Remove All" or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried other ways to remove all but couldn't. Managed to remove maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thousand till the letter "F". I am already sick and I could have died. Gave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up removing any further to another day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did all the other items OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no problems accessing my account and Inbox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about this new identity thing. What will happen to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old/actual identity - Ben Stevenson?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will I then have two identities?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What should my new identity name be? Something close to Ben Stevenson or any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name I like?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will I then have two Inboxes? I am confused. pls enlighten.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:50 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can ignore the "tens of thousands of sites" in Restricted Sites zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue for now. (I assume you use Spybot and/or SpywareBlaster.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing will happen to it whatsoever. Creating a new identity does NOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete/remove any other identities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but your orginal "Ben Stevenson" identity will remain the default for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything you want as long as it's NOT "Main Identity" or has the word "main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it. How about naming it simply "Ben2"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why I asked you to do this: If the Hotmail account works in the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identity, this would suggest that the original identity is damaged, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's not cross that bridge until and unless we come to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, look at this illustration:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/cms/contentPics/t01220030403shu01_C.gif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does your Folders pane (left-hand side of OE) look like that, with separate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail-specific folders?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 03, 2009 8:11 AM Ben Stevenson wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must thank you for your patience. Hope it doesn't slow you down too. Will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do the new identity when I get a little better, but looked at just one item
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today as below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eVbkE18sJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes exactly. With some of my own created folders at the upper OE part. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower "Hotmail" is exactly as mine, and all my msgs come into the Inbox of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Hotmail.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 03, 2009 10:37 PM PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Ben, please avoid in-line replies. Thank you.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your last reply means you had been accessing the Hotmail account via WebDAV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't concern yourself over what WebDAV means] while you were a Qwest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you're now a Comcast customer and the Hotmail account is no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with Qwest, you may not be able to access the account via WebDAV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any identity. We'll know for sure once you've completed all eight (8)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps in my post on 17 Mar-09:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/msg/0faae43bf71182fe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If it's any comfort to you, no one will be able to access a free Hotmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in OE the way you had been accessing it a few months from now.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until we've got your Hotmail account running in OE again, you can always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access it via www.hotmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Stevenson wrote: